Really interesting topic.

I like seblod and use it in many situation... but there are here and there dark black holes that need to be "mapped" if not eliminated.

I still have no idea, for example, how are getting along with the group-x list-search... I'll try out later.

Hi,

I'm disagree with that :

Tag system by SEBLOD : have not the same function as joomla tags. With Seblod tag you can have a basket with all content type, not just words... (for exemple the ecommerce system on Seblod works with it !)

Multilanguage : you have multiple choice for using multilanguage : multi-site, JTEXT functions...

Search Type : I'm using what you want and it works like a charm ! SelectMultiple in content -> select simple, radio, checkbox in Search type for the same field .

Sliders : I'have created some sliders (slideset, slideshow,...) with jquery, I have interfaced Camera JS, and big jquery sliders for my Seblod website.

renderField : Have you try to using $cck->get('myField')->value , $cck->getTypo('myField'), $cck->getHtml('myField'), $cck->get('myField')->label, or override the CSS ? (float : left)

Seb_one is responsive, my website is RWD, use your own seblod template if you can.

For categories, never the use for me.

BR

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I am ready to say that I was wrong, if you can prove and show examples.

Tag system by SEBLOD : have not the same function as joomla tags. With Seblod tag you can have a basket with all content type, not just words... (for exemple the ecommerce system on Seblod works with it !)

About tags here and here

What is ecommerce system on Seblod, never heard of it? Where it is, can you show it?  You mean build your own? On what manuals and what help based? Suck out everything from finger? This doesn't helped.

Multilanguage : you have multiple choice for using multilanguage : multi-site, JTEXT functions...

Multisite ... for one multilanguage page, this just isn't funny. Do you think that employees at work should run around office to work with excel on one working place, with word on another and so on?

Search Type : I'm using what you want and it works like a charm ! SelectMultiple in content -> select simple, radio, checkbox in Search type for the same field .

Take Country field from User (Select Dynamic, based on DB table countries), make it multiselect in Admin and in Content it will show up Countries selected. Now for these articles make tags on countries so it could be searchable. In search make field Select Dynamic, but not multiselect so it is possible to filter articles by country. And for multilanguage. 

How do you think, why nobody answers me on this question? Because it is possible?

Sliders : I'have created some sliders (slideset, slideshow,...) with jquery, I have interfaced Camera JS, and big jquery sliders for my Seblod website.

I talked about jQuery slider for price filtering (from .. to) in search, please example in studio, never saw any working or solution or description in seblod forums. It is not about pictures slide.

The way that you are saying that you built something doesn't help and doesn't prove that this is possible on seblod while it is not showed, explained and helped others.

renderField : Have you try to using $cck->get('myField')->value , $cck->getTypo('myField'), $cck->getHtml('myField'), $cck->get('myField')->label, or override the CSS ? (float : left) 

Please solution for this

Seb_one is responsive, my website is RWD, use your own seblod template if you can.

No it is not. Here

Yes I can, I already built it with override and bootstrap. At least this solution works. Let's make question more accurate: is seb_one template usable for mobile devices? And it is not.

At the end I can say seblod is as good as its user, but user can't be good if there is no info about seblod. If someone and you made something and you say that it is working then why there are no such solutions? For now SEBLOD with it knowledge base/forums/ solutions is usable for just "simple" things. Build e-commerce on it or booking system ... mission impossible for now.

If you believe that CCK purpose to make catalogue and searches is coding of different things, but not just putting it together than you misunderstand something. Do not want to make advertising, but I worked with several CCKs, take for example ZOO, things what I made now on SEBLOD within month time (field rendering, related products, multilanguage) I can make in ZOO in 1 day. This is the way to work with CCK. I can imagine what I can get more from SEBLOD and never from ZOO, but how is still enigma for me and I think for most of users.

Now it is balancing on "make your own component" from base and do not use seblod, at least you will not need to fight with stupid little problems without solution.

Brgds

Hi,

See this How to http://www.seblod.com/community/forums/general-discussions/how-to-use-joomla-native-tag-system#7267

Best regards

Castor

Hi

I don't agree with you. We at Pulsar tried many CCKs before switching to Seblod since it was by far the most versatile and powerful CCK we found.

It's true the support is not as high we would like it to be but the product is as complex as powerful. If you only use a CCK for custom lists it's true that Seblod may not be the best choice. And as for the support you still can pay for a pro support.

However we use seblod for all our developpements because we now have a very stable developpment platform with only one extension!

We mostly use Seblod for rich interfaces and complex pages with higly related contents and ajax powered complex forms.

We built our own sliders, tabs /accordions module,  googlemap and calendar views with seblod/jquery. Joomla had never been so stable.

The new code fields are a real big happy surprise since you now can interfere with almost every views with custom PHP/JS code.

JOOMLA = just a CMS

JOOMLA + SEBLOD = an Application Builder

With Seblod you can make design people, front and back developpers work together on the same platform with only one tool.

BUT there are still big holes... which are mostly related to Joomla itself, not to seblod: the way the whole CMS is itemID related (for the com_finder, seo etc...) is a real mess! These awkward categories are from an old time etc etc...

So according to us the real problem comes from the fact that Joomla keeps its own logic since it is not seblod centric.

It may be better with Joomla 3 (we still developp with Joomla 2.5 here, waiting for a more stable version of the CMS) with cannonical urls but the con_finder is still related to the Joomla menu items on categories and still ignores the seblod lists.

Cyril

Hello pulsarinformatique

Firstly I am not talking about common things, but mostly about exact cases. I agree on your point that Joomla without CCK is just Joomla. But only on that.

I am talking about exact cases with Seblod. Exact solutions and help on these cases. While there are open questions without solutions, it means Seblod can't do this. Only thing to do is narrow this list.

Brgds

I won't convice you but at least I can give you our point of view

Look at http://www.sistvo.fr/ with seblod lists as sliders, tabs, accordions with seblod

Tags: With seblod tags can be a content type as any other. It allows us to have a multi storage feature joomla categories can't offer. As for joomla tags, they are great too but you can't extend them. We also use tags and seblod seach lists for ajax powered faceted search features.

Multi language: we have built a multi site /multi language project with seblod last year (these 3 sites are the same joomla: http://www.dbu.univ-paris3.fr/fr/   http://www.bsb.univ-paris3.fr/fr/ and http://www.cadist-anglais.fr/fr/) . It hasn't been easy but it works. Without seblod we just couldn't do it.

Support : the paid support exists if you need it.

etc, etc...

so it's true that working with seblod can only be effective with some good knowledge of PHP / ajax / SQL (as long as responsive CSS) but it's worth choosing it :) We are discovering new possibilities every month.

Again the real bad point according to us  is Joomla itself and the real fact that Seblod is not 100% native Joomla and will never be. Joomla keeps historical weaknesses according to me. So what we try to do is to replace joomla parts with seblod parts projects after projects.

cyril

Just a little point... I guess that with "slider" Krkr intended something like an handle to select numeric value in a form, not a news or media slider :)

@krkr >>> I agree 100% with u !

@pulsarinformatique

sur sistvo.fr ya rien de spécial , les sliders, tabs, accordions sont des fonctionnalités conteneurs intégrés aux templates  (rocket ou yoo ect ...) !  Seblod lui gère le contenu , on peut également intégrés ces conteneurs en override dans les templates seblod.  

par contre faudrait penser à corriger quelques trucs car avec Opéra ça fait désordre !!

>> voir ici

Je l'ai déja dit Seblod c'est une énorme perte de temps en apprentissage car à lui seul ne permet rien de complexe , si vous n'avez pas de connaissances en dev PHP , JAVASCRIPT, SQL  et framework Joomla , c mort !
Après c'est certain que tout dépend de ce que l'on veut faire mais surtout avoir les compétences de le faire soi-même car inévitablement faudra CODER !

Puis j'allais oublier de préciser que même sur cette dernière version seblod ya pas mal de lacunes qui datent ! truc tout bête par exemple 

pour un contenu appelé par un champ Group dans un formulaire , ya pas moyen d'avoir ni la description des champs , ni l'étoile du required et la prise en charge css n'est pas top !
>> rien que ça demande de recoder le plugin group et de revoir les styles css comme ci-dessous:

Group Field recoded demo

Donc en somme Seblod permet de faire pas mal de choses avec une agréable gestion côté backend mais reste médiocre dans l'ensemble des possibilités offertes pour un site dynamique.

I don't know where this discussion heading... do you like to make community realise that a lot of things that seblod can't do.. yes its a lot.. it can't create executable files and mobile apps for sure...

C'mon guys.. let's face it.. its open source.. there's tons of things what you can do when you understand the concept... especially when you know how seblod works... have you tried make your custom field ? if you have that ability you're more than awesome..

If you work with clients.. speed is the most important

Seblod for eCommerce ? i won't bother.. don't want to reinvent the wheels.. theres Hikashop, Virtuemart and friends for this..can seblod use for eCommerce.. of course it can.. you can see the add-on marketplace here for example

Seblod for Social Features ? i also won't bother.. there's jomsocial and community builder for this...

you only need to thing on how you can create the bridge for those 3rd party apps...

i've been using seblod for more than 2 years... yes sometime i struggle to create things... but at this moment, i can't live without it..it just so easy to build things...

Hi Viktor Iwan; 

LOL ! I think nobody here want to reinvent the wheels. !! and what do u think about this great forum made with Seblod ?? , I think only Seblod Dev want to reinvent the wheels , also not bad at all but good illustration about Seblod cck limitation.

Viktor I know you are a good helper here but what did you expect from seblod knowing that all good features are for sell ?

You can be sure that all Dev don't want to help here , because they don't want to see the features to be sent to sell like sd concat field !

That F-uc-king S-HI-T Kill the share concept here 

I think that the topic is going in a direction that is not intended by the poster.

If I'm correct, pleas Krkr be the judge about that, Krkr started this thread to serve as an HELP to the community, because one thing is to say "the sky is the limit", another one is to have the details about the price you have to pay to buy the rocket.
I mean, we are are to discuss and give a precise idea of the major and minor problems that will appear when trying something particular with Seblod, this is not the place to say that support could be better, that it's not fair to pay for something that should be free and so on... it would turn an actually usefull resource , like this could be, in a useless flame, so please...let's try to give a contribute all together.

Ok for example,

 I'm not sure SEBLOD could manage a customised notification system emailing to the registered user the new contents filtered according to HIS preferences with the sending frequency HE has decided (daily, weekly etc...).

We can define some custom search criteria stored in the registered user profile so that these criteria are used as filters in seblod searches on some contents.

But I don't see how seblod could manage  the comparison with the previous call. Even if cron tasks call the seblod seach list, how can the system connects as the user specifying the password that is unknown and at a specific rate given in the user's profile too?

Without speaking of comparing the result to the previous similar call for the same user and emailing the differerences

Cyril